Zaydi view on Twelver belief of raja'a

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7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #315 by Yahya
Salamu 'alaykum ! What is the position of Zaydi Imams (alayhim as salam) about Twelver belief of raja'a and whith which arguments they based their opinion ?
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7 years 9 months ago #318 by Imam Rassi Society
Wa alaykum as salaam!

Thank you for your question! As for the Zaydi position on the Raja', I will refer you to the response by one of our contemporary ulema al-Hussein b. Yahya al-Houthi:

This is not of the Zaydi madhhab, and we do not know of it to be narrated from any of them. It [i.e. Raja'] is the belief that some of the Companions who oppressed Ali, upon him be peace, will be raised before the Day of Judgement and redressed. There is no proof for this.


Imam Zayd, upon him be peace, was asked about it. Sheikh Abu Ja'far al-Husami narrated that when the imam was asked about it, he said:

Have you not read the statement of Allah, the Exalted {How canst thou disbelieve in Allah whilst ye were dead and He gave thee life?} (Q. 2:28)? The phrase {whilst ye were dead} means: when you were a dead speck. And {He gave thee life} means: He sent you to this world. {Then, He caused thee to die and gave thee life} This refers to the Day of Judgement. {Then unto Him shall ye return}. Do you see a return (raja') mentioned before the Day of Judgement?

The questioner said: No.

It is also narrated by Abdullah b. Umar b. Ali b. Abi Taalib (as) that Imam Zayd (as) said regarding the verse {It is a prohibition upon any village that We destroyed that they should not return} (Q. 21:95):

The dead will not return until the Day of Judgement.


Therefore, the belief in the Raja' is totally rejected by the Zaydis. Hope this helps!

And Allah knows best!

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7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #321 by Yahya
Thank you for your answer !

And how we can deal these sayings of our Imams (alayhim as salam) with the verse 2:259 :

Or ( bethink thee of ) the like of him who , passing by a township which had fallen into utter ruin , exclaimed : How shall Allah give this township life after its death? And Allah made him die a hundred years , then brought him back to life .

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Or with the story of Sidna Ibrahim (alayhi as salam) and the birds mentioned in the following verse ?
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7 years 9 months ago #323 by Imam Rassi Society
Thank you for your question! Actually these verses do not justify or prove the Raja' for various reasons:
1. The two verses mention a specific instance and not a general rule.
2. The two verses mention Allah resurrecting a righteous Prophet (as) in 2:259 and birds in the next verse. No where does it indicate that evil people are resurrected before Qiyaama.
3. The verses were used to demonstrate the belief in resurrection and not raja'.

Therefore, they cannot be used to prove the Raja'. And Allah knows best!

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7 years 8 months ago #338 by Yahya
Thank you for your answer !

I do not want to argue, I just try to have an understanding of all the arguments, but when you say :

1. The two verses mention a specific instance and not a general rule.


If it is possible for a specific instance, why raja'a can't be in greater proportion with the revivification of Ahl Al Bayt ?

When you say :

2. The two verses mention Allah resurrecting a righteous Prophet (as) in 2:259 and birds in the next verse. No where does it indicate that evil people are resurrected before Qiyaama.


If it is possible for a good creature to be resurrected, why an evil can not ? What prevents the raja'a to be only for a type of creature since for yawm al qiyaama it will be for everyone ?

And then, when you say :

3. The verses were used to demonstrate the belief in resurrection and not raja'.


It is true, but what is the difference in the facts between the revivification of a creature in the raja'a view and the yawm al qiyaama view ?

I am convinced that the Zaydi vision is correct, but how to answer all these questions that naturally arise by the twelvers ?

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7 years 8 months ago #339 by Imam Rassi Society
Thank you for your question!

As for the first and second questions, any interpretation is possible to one who wants to forward any interpretation. The reason why we don't accept the interpretation of general and not specific, is that there is no evidence to suggest that we should interpret it generally. It is possible for the enemies of Ahl al-Bayt to be resurrected just as it is possible for anyone else to be resurrected. But the question is not whether it is possible but rather is it proven.

As for the third question, the difference between raja and resurrection is that the proponents of raja believe that it is a resurrection of a specific group of people that will take place before the resurrection. It would seem rather superfluous to resurrect a group to punish them before resurrecting them again to punish them again. As we mentioned, the purpose of the aforementioned verses is to demonstrate the power of Allah to resurrect the dead. Please refer back to verse 259. The question that was asked in the verse was "How can Allah bring back life after death?" and not "How can Allah bring back life after death after life after death?"

And Allah knows best!

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