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9 years 6 months ago #396 by kish786
Salam! I would just like to find out do the Zaydis accept narrations from Ashab Al Ijma of the Imamiya school like:

1) Zurarah bin Ayyan
2) Muhammad bin Muslim
3) Fudayl bin Yasir
3) Abu Basir

I also note the Zaidis also take narrations from Imam Ali Al Rida (AS) even though he is not a Zaidi Imam. What is the Zaydi view on the following narrators:

13) Yunus b. Abd al-Rahman
14) Safwan b. Yahya
15) Muhammad b. Abi Umayr
16) Abdullah b. Mughayra al-Bajjali
17) Ahmed b. Muhammad b. Abi Nasr al-Bizanti
18) Hassan b. Mahbub al-Kufi

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9 years 6 months ago #400 by Imam Rassi Society
Salaams!

I'm not sure about whether Zaydis take narrations from the aforementioned individuals. However, there is a general distrust among Zaydis of Imami narrators due to their possibly attributing something false to the imams.

Btw, Zaydis DO in fact consider Imam Ali b. Musa ar-Rida (as) as an Imam.

And Allah knows best!

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9 years 6 months ago #404 by kish786
How is it possible for Zaydis to consider Imam Ali Al-Rida (AS) as an Imam.? he did not declare the Imamat with the sword and wage war to seize the government from the Abbasids?

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9 years 6 months ago #406 by Imam Rassi Society
Thank you for your question! According to the text Tuhfa az-Zalaf, Imam Ali bin Musa ar-Rida (as) is listed as one of our imams. Although he did not lead a fight against an oppressive tyrant, he was openly given the oath of allegiance (ba'ya) by al-Ma'mun, the Abbassids, the Bani Hashim, and others. The text even says that the scholars and imams of the Ahl al-Bayt (as) agree to his Imamate by consensus. This open ba'ya means that there was an open call to his imamate, he therefore fitted the criteria and preconditions for the Imamate according to Zaydi belief.

We do not agree with the 12ers in that his imamate was only known to a small group of followers. This would entail that Allah imposes an obligation upon the ummah to obey the authority of a person who has not manifested such authority to them. This is oppression and impossible in respect to Allah. We say that the open call to imamate and subsequent oath of allegiance to him qualified him as an Imam. This is similar to the Imamate of Imam al-Hadi ila al-Haqq Yahya bin al-Hussein (as) who did not fight an oppressive tyrant but was given the oath of allegiance as Imam.

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