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8 years 5 months ago #779
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8 years 5 months ago #783
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They say that 6:103 and 7:143 do not negate seeing Allah but complete "comprehension" of Allah ...word used in one of those verses is "IDRAAK" which refers to complete comprehension and ahl al sunnah agree that is impossible
They further use the hadith in which Musa (a.s) asked Allah to show himself is by itself a proof that Allah can be seen because Anbiya never ask illogical and impossible questions. Allah did show himself too and Musa saw him but fainted
They further use the hadith in which Musa (a.s) asked Allah to show himself is by itself a proof that Allah can be seen because Anbiya never ask illogical and impossible questions. Allah did show himself too and Musa saw him but fainted
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8 years 5 months ago #792
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This argument--with all due respect to the Sunnis--is weak and lacking for a variety of reasons. First of all, the meaning of idraak when it is connected to sight (b-s-r) means to see. This is clearly evident when one consults Arabic dictionaries and lexicons. Secondly, one of the meanings of the word idraak is 'perceive' or 'comprehend,' such as Q. 69:3. Although it also carries the meaning of 'reach' or 'overtake,' it is understood that it means perception when it is connected to the senses. It therefore conveys the meaning of seeing when connected to sight or the eyes. Third, if the idraak means complete comprehension as they say and the verse says that we won't completely comprehend Allah, it means that we will partly comprehend Allah or will not comprehend Him at all. If it is that we will partly comprehend Allah, this would mean that Allah can be broken into parts--a part we can comprehend and a part that we can't comprehend. That which is infinite cannot be divided into parts. If it means that we will not comprehend Allah at all, this strengthens the argument that we won't see Him because vision is the comprehension of the eyes. Fourth, another translation of idraak is 'reach,' such as Q. 4:78. If the verse says that sight will not reach Allah, it further proves that Allah will not be seen. Fifth, Musa's asking to see Allah was not of his own behest but rather at the request of his people as is evident from verses Q. 2:55 and Q. 4:153. Sixth, Allah mentions that the Children of Israel were punished for their request to see Allah as is mentioned in the aforementioned two verses. Nabi Musa (as) was not afflicted by the same punishment and was therefore not guilty of the same crime. Although, he did seemingly request to see Allah, this doesn't not mean that he believed that it was possible. A Prophet may openly declare something that is seemingly shirk although he does not believe in it. This is further substantiated by the fact that the Qur'an indicates that Nabi Ibrahim (as) said about the heavenly bodies {"This is my lord!"} (Q. 6:76). Obviously, a Prophet of Allah cannot believe such though he openly said it. Seventh, Allah did not show Himself to Musa especially after declaring {Thou shall never see Me}. Any report or so-called hadith that says otherwise is a lie and fabricated.
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